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jumbojet wrote: obsolete aircraft ai and tools..

 You talk about obsolete aircraft but then mention going back to using MyT6? The models used in that are archaic and look horrible in the sim. Regarding schedules, the ones used in MyT are mostly fictitious as it is.
 Simply add FedEx and UPS outside of UTL if you want them so bad using the links above. At least then you'll have good looking traffic operating on realistic schedules. Put a bit of time into it and be rewarded.

I hope they will have the 737s with those split singlets.

Dave_YVRATC wrote: simsuper80 wrote: I hope they will have the 737s with those split singlets.  Those you just add yourself, they are free. http://fsxaibureau.com/manufacturing/

Oh that I know, but I was wondering about the release version of ultimate traffic live.

How will adding repaints be handeled in this new version? Are we still having to be bothered with the ui_variation to differentiate between paints? Or is this changed to title which need to be individually named in order to work?

Quite annoying having to change uivar for 80 aircraft in one company.... and multiply that by x of companies...

Here is an example to show exactly what Mark means. I use the same policy but have 200% OCD

[fltsim.9]              
title                         = Airbus A318-112 British Airways G-EUNA
sim                         = A318-100
model                         = CFM
texture                         = BAW British Airways\G-EUNA
soundai                     = CFM
atc_id                         = G-EUNA
atc_airline                    = SPEEDBIRD
atc_flight_number               =
atc_heavy                    = 0
atc_parking_types               = GATE
atc_parking_codes               = BAW
ui_manufacturer                    = AI Airbus
ui_type                         = Airbus A318-100 (318)
ui_variation                    = British Airways G-EUNA
ui_typerole                    = Commercial Airliner
ui_createdby                    = FAIB
description                    = Airbus A318-112 British Airways G-EUNA
//
[fltsim.10]              
title                         = Airbus A318-112 British Airways G-EUNB
sim                         = A318-100
model                         = CFM
texture                         = BAW British Airways\G-EUNB
soundai                     = CFM
atc_id                         = G-EUNB
atc_airline                    = SPEEDBIRD
atc_flight_number               =
atc_heavy                    = 0
atc_parking_types               = GATE
atc_parking_codes               = BAW
ui_manufacturer                    = AI Airbus
ui_type                         = Airbus A318-100 (318)
ui_variation                    = British Airways G-EUNB
ui_typerole                    = Commercial Airliner
ui_createdby                    = FAIB
description                    = Airbus A318-112 British Airways

Guys the title needs to be unique so that FSX/P3D does not complain about duplicate items. It is the Title that the sim looks for.

The ui_variation also needs to be unique otherwise you would not know which aircraft repaints you are adding. It is the ui_variation that the UTL/UT2 configuration looks for. This is why I use the aircraft Tail Number in the ui_variation section as it gets very complicated when you try to start renaming repaints based on certain factors.

I have added a whole bunch of repaints for Norwegian, Ryanair, Frontier, JetBlue etc without any difficulties.

@bsmavollan,

Believe it or not, we are saying the same thing. It's obvious you know what you're doing when it comes to installing AI.

This is the way UTL handles it. Maybe I should have explained it a little better.

freelancer wrote: Ultimate Traffic (any version) has used the ui_variation only to differentiate between paints.

UTL uses the ui_manufacturer, ui_type and ui_variation to help make it easier to track down the paint you are looking for to assign. This is why you need the ui_variation to be unique so that all your paints will show up for each aircraft. I use the airline name and reg #.

freelancer wrote: If you only have one paint for an airline per aircraft, then you don't need to worry about the ui_variation.

Just as I said. There is only one paint so the only thing you need to put is the airline name, nothing else.

freelancer wrote: If you're like me and have several paints for an airline (like Frontier) for one aircraft, how else are you going to tell the difference between them when you go to assign them? All my ui_variation's are unique, just like my title's.

As I mentioned, I use the airline name and reg #.

You mention the ui_variation does not need to be unique and in the same post that once you add one paint you can't add any more because UTL thinks it's already assigned. You made the ui_variarion unique and was able to assign all the paints. That's what I said.

freelancer wrote: It's always been the title and the title has always needed to be unique.

I should have said that UT always uses the title when it assigns a aircraft to a flight plan.

freelancer wrote: Even when using plans from AIG and compiling into a bgl traffic file.

I meant that the title needed to be unique even when manually installing AI.

The painters don't need to have a unique ui_variation because they're not painting for UTL's interface. They're painting them for people who manually add their AI, so to speak, where they use the title only. Since we are using the paints with UTL, we need to change the ui_variation ourselves.

I don't think using the title only to differentiate between paints is a good idea. I've built a new computer so I'm taking the time to clean up my AI. I only have the FAIB Airbus and 737's installed right now. Looking at the UTL Configuration - Installs section, I have added about 3300 textures with just those aircraft and I have a ton more to install. If UTL used the titles, you could have a list of 10,000 or more entries to look through to find the aircraft you want. The way it is now, I can narrow it down to the 673 textures I have for one aircraft. Just my opinion.

Hope this explains it better.

I understand that i'm not gonna get anywhere, but for the arguments sake.

Of course it matters. Because each painters is required to make unique titles. Ergo I can download, install and the assign each paint directly.
Yes I still have to click to assign the 100 paints, but I can do it right away.

Now we download and install the paints. Then we have to use an amount of time to go through the cfg to make sure each ui is unique before we can click and add the 100 paints.

What I mean is that this last way to do it is in a way that could be faster.

Og you download an AIG schedule you get quality flightplans. Even though they are made for AIFP. AIFP is Baard on the titles given in the aircraft.txt file. And is for the most part the exact title you get when downloading a new paint.

Imagine og UT would use this file a little more.
(Don't know how this will be in UTL yet). In ut2 pp the aircraft file is used first time only to have us select the IATA godes for the aircraft. Again this is all 97 aircraft for the Norwegian pack. What if UT used the paints from the aircraft.txt directly? And you then could change what you would need or want?

What I do today is delete most of the aircraft so that I only have one aircraft per type and operator. So not 97 738's but 4. And then I need to assign the 97 paints based on operator and type, after the extensive editing of cfg.


As I've said. Yes I get by and know how to do it. I'm just looking at ways to make things easier for the end-user.
I know that many of those in my circle who don't use UT2 is because of the way you add paints. They feel it's easier just to use AIFP.

Hi

I know i am a bit late to the party but I have just heard about this as a long time user of UT2 I have a couple of questions that I hope someone can answer.

I would like to use this on 2 computers do I need to buy 2 copies and also would I need to uninstall UT2?

Many thanks

Daz

Will you guys update to P3D V4?

https://fselite.net/news/guide-install-ut-live-p3d-v4/

FsElite says they simplefied the explanation.

Can you make video for UTL instation step by step for p3D v4 that help all of us thanks

hello ribas123,

Jeff Smith wrote: Hello, After talking directly with dev yesterday, here are a couple of notes while we continue with development of Ultimate Traffic Live. 1)  Ultimate Traffic Live will officially support v4 when we reach the point of a final release.  2) Prepared V4 - Prepar3d V4 is currently not supported.   I see several of you using file hacks and workarounds to get it in working in V4.  While we appreciate the enthusiasm on getting this product working in V4, we strongly recommend that you keep and use the product in v3 for the time being. We will not offer support or solve crash issues related to V4 installs at this time.   3) Support Responses - Dev has been working with a few people to fix common crash issues via other comms to get these issues resolved and add them to the next build.  If you are currently having crashes and you have not been contacted by me yet, please be patient.  I will be culling through the forums once again to see if any of those have outstanding issues over the next day or two.  Also keep in mind that we did stress this was a 'soft' release and it is not fully functional yet.  Be patient as there is much going on behind the scenes with development as we work on getting to a new version build for you to use and provide feedback on. 4) Finally, Thanks!  We appreciate your enthusiasm for the product and we will continue to move forward on development based on your feedback and suggestions.  Keep them coming and thanks for your continues support and patience.